"This is not a trust-but-verify; this is a verify- then-trust approach," said Ryan on ABC.
The Wisconsin Republican added that "we don't trust the president to enforce the law," necessitating strong commitments from Democrats to border security measures in any immigration reform deal. Ryan specifically mentioned border security and interior security that includes a worker verification system and a visa tracking system. Those items have to be in law and independently verified before legalization can move forward, Ryan said.
The bottom line: "If we can do that where it's security first, no amnesty, then we might be able to get somewhere," said Ryan. "But I just don't know if that's going to be the case or not."